Last time I was slapped, my feelings were hurt, but I wouldn't call that torture.

Hey ChaxC, go to http://www.blackwaterusa.com/employment/. I think they need someone who thinks like you.

Steve, I agree that torture is a scummy thing that should be a tool left for people with no morals. I disagree that something that's been in practice world wide for centuries doesn't work.

You know, I suggested that we experiment on torturing Raul as well, and he suggested that I go to work for Blackwater, which doesn't make much sense seeing as they are the ones torturing people. They just kill them. I guess it just goes to show how much you are aware of what goes on in the world Raul. By the way, the use of torture isn't used to get information. It's used to exact control. It's used to make the person do what you want. If you want a "detainee" to say where the WMDs are, torture him and he'll tell you. It probably won't be true, but he'll tell you.

Torture is the most slippery slope. Only a sadist would think it is a good idea. Let me repeat that: Only a sadist would think it is a good idea. "Rational" & "intellectual" arguments are neither rational nor intellectual. The "what if" scenarios are frought w/ false assumptions. Some people like to eat sh*t, but this doesn't make it a good idea; doesn't mean it's really tasty or good 4U. Similarly, the sadists have a "taste" for torture. This is an exact analogy. "National security", "heresy", or "salvation from satan" are like putting mustard, catsup, or relish on a turd. Unfortunately, some people will never, ever get the difference between sh*t and Shinola.