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In his recent Capitol Hill appearance, Erik Prince played down his foreign recruiting.
In his recent Capitol Hill appearance, Erik Prince played down his foreign recruiting.
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In addition to prospecting for international contracts, Greystone has become Prince's primary recruiter of foreign military muscle. On its website, the company says its operators are drawn "from the best militaries throughout the world" and represent "numerous nationalities." Its reliance on foreign recruits, it claims, is a matter of "cultural sensitivity" and "awareness." What the PR materials don't say is that Greystone, along with other security companies, likely outsources its work overseas for the same reason many other businesses do—it brings down costs and helps bypass bothersome regulations. "They're going to pay these people a lot less, and they're not going to respect the same type of employee and labor rights that U.S. nationals would require," says Erica Razook, an Amnesty International lawyer whose work focuses on private-security contractors.

Consider the case of Greystone subcontractor ID Systems. Incorporated in Panama and headquartered in a nondescript office complex in Bogotá, Colombia, the company in 2005 placed newspaper ads that drew men with military experience—a plentiful commodity in a country torn by civil war and terrorized by guerrillas and paramilitaries. According to one ID Systems recruit, a former Colombian army officer who asked to remain anonymous, he and at least 30 other men were promised $4,000 per month to do security work for Blackwater in Iraq. They went through a quick refresher course in firearms and hand-to-hand combat at the Colombian army's cavalry school in northern Bogotá, he said; among the instructors were several Americans, all ex-U.S. military working for Greystone. Afterward, the recruits returned home to wait for the call to Iraq.

It came late one evening in June 2006. The men assembled at ID Systems' offices, where they were met by Gonzalo Adolfo Guevara, a former Colombian army captain who had overseen their recruitment. He handed them contracts and told them to be at the airport in four hours. They were told they would be making not $4,000 but $2,700 per month—still not bad in Colombia, where some workers only earn that much in a year. But the actual contract, which some of them didn't read until after they were airborne, provided for just $1,000 per month, or $34 per day.

On arriving in Baghdad, the men were issued weapons and introduced to Blackwater and Greystone managers. Bitterness turned to anger when they discovered that their pay was about one-fourth that of the Romanians they were replacing. They composed a letter to managers at ID Systems, Greystone, and Blackwater demanding either a raise or a ticket back to Colombia. The companies stonewalled, and it wasn't until three months later, after reports of the dispute had appeared in Semana, Colombia's largest newsmagazine, that the men were finally sent home. (Chris Taylor says there was no impropriety: "Before every single one of those professionals were deployed, they understood there was a change in the contract. Those who went understood perfectly what they were signing.") According to the former recruit, ID Systems continues to supply personnel to Greystone. But Guevara, the man who deceived the recruits about their wages, is no longer involved—he was shot and left to die outside a Bogotá bakery last May.

It was neither guevara nor Erik Prince who pioneered the idea of hiring foreign soldiers to do the business of the U.S. government. That took the imagination of a Chilean American businessman named José Miguel Pizarro. "Pizarro opened the door," says José Luis Gómez del Prado, a former diplomat who heads the UN Working Group on the use of mercenaries; it's thanks to Pizarro that recruiting ex-soldiers from Latin America has become "a big business."

Born in California and raised in Santiago, Pizarro served ten years as an officer in the Chilean army and another three as a Marine Corps translator attached to the U.S. Southern Command. By March 2003, he was heading a small defense-consulting firm in suburban Washington, D.C. Pizarro was connected and well spoken. He was also telegenic, and as the U.S. stormed toward Iraq he was hired as an on-air military analyst with cnn en Español, the network's Spanish-language affiliate. It was there, in the cafeteria between shows, that he befriended a former U.S. general, also working as an analyst, who helped him hatch the idea of renting former Chilean soldiers to American private security companies. "He explained to me how the opportunity to do business in the Middle East was growing, that there was a need for private, professional security forces in Iraq," Pizarro recalls. "I started showing up in the cafeteria with pen and paper, taking notes, taking names. It took me several weeks to form the idea."

Before long, Pizarro was cold-calling security contractors to pitch his commandos. It wasn't an easy sell. "No one in any of the firms would even return his calls," says one industry expert Pizarro turned to for advice. Pizarro recalls his first meeting with Blackwater president Gary Jackson: "He told me, 'This is a respectable company, and we're going into a war zone. I need professional commandos, not peasants with rifles.'"

Not easily discouraged, Pizarro scored an appointment with Prince, who signed on for an initial batch of recruits to add to Blackwater's security operations in Iraq. Pizarro left the meeting starstruck with his first paying customer. "He's my hero," Pizarro says. "He's a patriot, a great Christian, and has the balls that 250 million Americans would love to have."

Back in Santiago, Pizarro formed a new company called Grupo Táctico—incorporated in Uruguay to sidestep Chilean laws prohibiting paramilitary activity—and posted an ad in a Chilean newspaper offering recruits $3,000 per month. More than a thousand men sent résumés, including some active-duty Chilean soldiers. Blackwater reps traveled to Chile to review the applicants, and by February 2004, Pizarro and about 75 of his top recruits—most of them former Chilean special forces, marine commandos, and paratroopers—were brought to Blackwater's compound in Moyock for training. Within weeks, they flew to Iraq, where they found themselves working alongside a veritable United Nations of security contractors: Nepalese and Indian Gurkhas, South Africans, and Eastern Europeans, to name a few. They became known as the "Black Penguins" because of the distinctive figures they cut on foot patrol, weighed down by weapons and flak jackets. Pizarro took to the term and designed a shoulder patch for his recruits: a penguin with an M-4 carbine across its chest.

to find their discount soldiers, Blackwater, Greystone, and their competitors have built recruitment networks reaching deep into the paramilitary milieus of the Third World. It works like this: Blackwater, for example, will win a U.S. government contract; it will then subcontract with itself—that is, with Greystone—to do the job. From there, Greystone looks to its network of international affiliates, firms like Pizarro's Grupo Táctico in Chile or ID Systems in Colombia, which maintain informal relationships with what are known in the trade as "briefcase recruiters"—individuals with connections to the local paramilitary scene. These men find the recruits and funnel them back up the chain until, finally, they are deployed alongside U.S. forces in Iraq. The practice also serves as a convenient firewall, shielding U.S.-based companies from direct liability for the actions of their subcontractors. "If a court is looking at these issues, where the contract is signed is a factor," explains Amnesty's Razook. "There is a lot there that would take it out of a U.S. court's control."

Briefcase recruiting is a little-known niche of the private security business that has attracted some less-than-savory characters. Take Julio (a.k.a. "George") Nayor, a Cuban American currently serving an 11-year sentence at a federal prison in Miami for drug trafficking. A one-time associate of Colombian drug lord Pablo Escobar, Nayor escaped arrest in the United States in the early 1990s and fled, by means of a fake passport and various false identities, to San Salvador. There he reportedly opened a gym and several restaurants including one he named Karaoke George, which was adjacent to an upscale shopping mall.

In late 2004, Nayor placed newspaper ads seeking men to work on contract in Iraq for an unspecified U.S. security firm; recruits were to meet him at the karaoke bar. According to a Washington Post reporter who witnessed the scene, men lined up outside for weeks. "This is the future of global security," Nayor bragged to the reporter, adding that he'd already accepted 300 Salvadorans and expected to sign up many more, including veterans of the 380-man contingent that the Salvadoran government had contributed to the Coalition of the Willing. As soldiers in Iraq, they had earned a monthly salary of $280; as hired guns, they expected to make as much as $2,400.

Nayor disappeared as quickly as he had emerged, but nine months later many of the men who had interviewed with him were contacted by capros, a new company headed by two high-ranking Salvadoran military officers that, according to a Salvadoran newspaper, was recruiting for Greystone. In December 2005, Greystone representatives visited El Salvador to review the recruits, although it's unclear whether they were ever sent to Iraq. Some of the men later told the Salvadoran press that the company had encouraged them to rack up credit-card purchases in preparation for their deployment, then failed to reimburse them.

Nayor's own career as a briefcase recruiter was cut short in September 2006 by his arrest for allegedly plotting to assassinate El Salvador's president by shooting down his helicopter with a shoulder-fired missile. He was subsequently extradited to the United States to face some of his old drug charges.

By then, Greystone's search for contractors had expanded far beyond Latin America. In 2005, a Croatian newspaper reported that Greystone had dispatched a man named Marko Radielovic, who once worked for the aid group Mercy Corps, to perform a "feasibility study" on hiring former Croatian soldiers and police. The following year, the Filipino press reported that a company called Satelles Solutions had applied to lease land (about 25 acres) within the former U.S. Navy base at Subic Bay. Satelles was a Greystone front; its Filipino "owners" included a former high-ranking general and an attorney at a major law firm that specialized in advising foreign investors. Each held a few pennies' worth of Satelles stock, while Greystone controlled the rest.

The firm had been courting the Filipino government for some time; seven of its embassy employees were invited to Greystone's unveiling ceremony in Washington, the largest contingent by far of any foreign embassy. Greystone, according to Filipino news reports, hoped to build a jungle-survival training facility capable of processing up to 1,000 trainees a week. "It was merely a place to be able to provide training to customers in that part of the world," says Chris Taylor; it wasn't about creating a "third-country-national offensive force." Nevertheless, after Filipino legislators called for an investigation, the company withdrew its application.

For a while, it seemed to José Miguel Pizarro as if the private security boom might never end. Following Erik Prince's example, he began to diversify—launching a Chilean business intelligence firm catering to the defense industry, and a security company that, like Blackwater, could provide guards, police and military trainers, and even bomb-sniffing dogs. He also took on a new client, Virginia-based Triple Canopy. But then, as quickly as his star had risen, it fell as both Greystone and Triple Canopy canceled his contracts. Pizarro blames corporate intrigue—Blackwater didn't like his doing business with the competition, he claims—but the true reason may be far simpler. At the height of his operation, Pizarro charged a monthly fee of $4,500 per recruit, of which his men received $3,200. Recruits from other Latin American countries, meanwhile, were willing to deploy to Iraq for as little as $700 per month. "You can get five Colombian rifles for one Chilean," Pizarro says. "Do the math."

In January 2006, the last of his 1,157 Chilean commandos left Iraq. By the time Erik Prince testified before the House oversight committee last October, he acted as though he didn't remember Pizarro: "He might have been a vendor to us," he ventured when Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.) asked him point-blank.

But if Prince has lost all memory of the Chilean recruiter, Pizarro hasn't forgotten his role model. Having focused of late on the strategic-consulting side of his business, he says he remains prepared to muster more than 1,200 Chilean commandos for deployment anywhere in the world. "Privatization of certain security services is a long-term trend with historical consequences," he says. "The entire future of private military companies is being redesigned as we speak."

Indeed, the private security industry could be heading toward a shake-up—though not necessarily in the way Pizarro would like. Many of the new players could suffer the fate of any startup, disappearing or being swallowed by larger firms. "The problem these guys have is that they're not very profitable," says Larry Johnson, a former cia officer who works as a consultant for Special Forces. Johnson, who's part of an investment group that was offered a crack at purchasing Triple Canopy when it went up for sale last year, says the firm clears, at most, 5 percent on about $170 million in annual revenue. "They're like a dollar wind machine," he says. "Dollars come in and dollars go out, but I don't see how they stay in business doing that."

Prince and his diversified group of companies, though, are positioned to endure. The Greystone model doesn't depend on America's wars: Whether the future of the business lies in what the industry calls "peace and stability" work or in providing "proactive" strike forces to private clients, some element of the Prince network is in a position to deliver. "They're soldiers of fortune," says the security director of a well-known humanitarian ngo. "Today they are willing to do the bidding of the United States, because the United States is willing to pay them. Who are they willing to work for tomorrow?"


A chart detailing the corporate structure of the Prince Group.

Bruce Falconer is a reporter in Mother Jones' Washington, D.C., bureau; Daniel Schulman is Mother Jones' Washington, D.C.-based associate editor.

Illustration By: Frank Stockton


 

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Though not attributed, this reads an awful lot like Scahill's book on Blackwater?!
Posted by:StyveMarch 20, 2008 12:57:23 PMRespond ^
Prince couldnt hold a candle to Mike Hoar! Old Mad Mike went through the Belgium Congo in !65 like a red hot bayonet into a suckling pig. Up Third Para's! Gun's forward, Open Fire!
Posted by:Franklin GrimesMarch 20, 2008 4:29:32 PMRespond ^
Blackwater is another name for raw sewerage. The joke is obviously on us.
Posted by:captMarch 20, 2008 7:00:37 PMRespond ^
Hmmm, very interesting. I guess Mark Penn was really earning his money from Blackwater (while, of course, he was earning money driving Hillary's campaign over the cliff.)But clearly Blackwater got their money's worth from Penn and Burson-Marsteller, since Hillary has never uttered a single word against Blackwater. Since Mark Penn tells anyone who will listen that he writes every word coming out of her mouth, who would be surprised.
My question is when Mark Penn style slime mixes with Blackwater slime, how do you tell the difference?
Posted by:Emily P.March 20, 2008 7:02:09 PMRespond ^
is it just me or does it seem like a separate military is being built at tax payer expense which doesn't have to follow the usual rules and can answer to unknown backers or political patrons.....?
Posted by:jsordMarch 20, 2008 7:29:18 PMRespond ^
this is the type of profit for killing groups that bush has allowed to prosper-if you give enough in donations to republicans, the world is yours to screw
Posted by:william pappasMarch 20, 2008 8:36:12 PMRespond ^
This country was nearly kept from becoming a free nation by the likes of Blackwater. How did this outfit ever get licensed to operate in the first place? This is just one more example of the destruction of the "Great Experiment". Mr Prince and all his kind should be disarmed and institutionalized as the menace to society that they are. Hopefully in a cell between Bush & Cheney.
Posted by:georgeinPAMarch 20, 2008 8:43:24 PMRespond ^
Where do I sign up for the fun?
Posted by:Siglo6March 20, 2008 9:00:44 PMRespond ^
Maybe its more like the East India Company?
Posted by:MikeMarch 20, 2008 11:45:25 PMRespond ^
I do believe these people are the inspiration for the fictional "Ravenwood" in the TV series "Jericho". They need to be stopped. Not one more tax dollars for these criminals!
Posted by:HawkinsMarch 21, 2008 2:49:30 AMRespond ^
they have created a more chaos. I Certainly believed this is one more way, were some of this big business people are making an opportunity to make big money.
Posted by:raman kandolaMarch 21, 2008 3:14:19 AMRespond ^
Meet your friendly new national police force (who will be driving those 10,000 mysterious armored vehicles the Pentagon has ordered) after mission one has been accomplished.

You'll fly their friendly skies on an all expenses paid one way trip to Gitmo, where one of those spanking new cells that are abuilding will be waiting for you if you've been making a problem of yourself.

Rotsa ruck!
Posted by:timMarch 21, 2008 3:33:52 AMRespond ^
Interesting how Scott Horton's posting,"Blackwater’s Gray Zone", in Harper's Mar.21 notes this article but not Scahill.
Posted by:JimMarch 21, 2008 8:05:49 AMRespond ^
Low profit margin? It sounds like the makings of an international war lord operation that would make most of its money through criminal operations as has already started in Iraq. What about the Bush connection? Joseph E. Schmitz who George W. appointed Inspector General of the Department of Defense left to become COO and legal advisor of the Prince Group, the parent company of it all. Oh yeah, and Schmitz is also Jeb Bush's brother-in-law, married to sisters. Isn't that handy? The Cosa Nostra must be green with envy.
Posted by:Pat WilliamsMarch 21, 2008 8:10:37 AMRespond ^
Prince is a very poor role model for a Christian. He and his hoods are worse than the Mafia ever were. They are paid murderers.
Posted by:marta kayeMarch 21, 2008 12:16:59 PMRespond ^
Let's get real and read a history book or two. Mercenaries have been around as long as the cave men. Just look at the US Revolutionary War here-Hessians galore! So Erik Prince and his Blackwater cadre are not a new phenomenon. True, many mercenaries from all walks of life, especially former military men. They can behave like thugs and murderers. That's what they get paid for. I am not for mercenaries but the fact is that these guys have been around since time began and will stay around until time ends.
Posted by:Jim GuinnesseyMarch 21, 2008 12:21:14 PMRespond ^
Right on, georgeinPA. They all belong in prison. Of course, if we really are in a War on Terror, the U.S. Military should be killing the Blackwater goons instead of working beside them.
Posted by:Marty KaczmarekMarch 21, 2008 12:46:32 PMRespond ^
And, to continue our tour of Ft. Leavenworth, on your left you'll see the entrance to the Blackwater wing, adjacent to the entrance directly ahead which leads to the Halliburton wing, both of these additions were built in just 90 short days under the current administration, construction began on 25 January, and was completed 25 April.
All of the cells in both wings are set up for solitary confinement, but are maintained in comfortable and professional fashion, as to do otherwise would be construed as cruel and unusual punishment, and definitely illegal. Nonetheless, none of these prisoners will ever see the light of day again, having been sentenced en masse in a 30-minute trial. There is some dispute as to whether or not the trial was in fact legal, but given the people we're dealing with here, it was also viewed as a fairly moot point. Next, we'll move on to the US Army fraud and larceny wing, which also has a full complement of 'lifers'...some serving several thousand concurrent life sentences...

;)
Bert08
Posted by:BertMarch 21, 2008 2:16:20 PMRespond ^
siglo6,
All branches of the US Military are hiring. http://www.usmilitary.com
Posted by:ButchMarch 21, 2008 2:31:13 PMRespond ^
BLACK WATER IS ALREADY IN MEXICO ALL ALONG THE US/MEXICAN BORDER ON WHAT SIDE IT IS OPERATING ON IS TO BE DETERMINED BY THE US,YOU SEE THE DRUG CARTELS ARE NOT COMPETENT ENOUGH TO HAVE THAT KIND OF (INTEL) ON THERE OWN TO EXECUTE SUCH RAIDS AND EXECUTIONS IN BROAD DAY LIGHT AND AND EXACT TARGETS ? THE US CAN NOT AFFORD TO HAVE A STABLE ECONOMY NOR A STABLE MEXICAN BORDER AND THE LATIN AMERICAN COUNTRIES DO NOT HAVE THE SMARTS NOR THE INTELLIGENCE TO PROVE OTHER WISE THEY SEEM SUSPICIOUS BUT CAN'T PROVE IT AND THE ALL AMERICAN DOLLAR IS VERY MUCH IN FULL VALUE AND ABUNDANCE IN BORDER TOWNS ALL ALONG THE BORDER WITH CORRUPTION BEING HARD FOR THEM TO CONTROL AN ELIMINATE TOTALLY! BELIVE ME I KNOW! I WAS IN MEXICO FOR UP TO 5 YRS. GATHERING INTEL FOR OUR GOVERMENT WE KNOW ALL OF MEXICOS SECRETS AND THERE WEAKNESSES AS WELL AS WHOM WE CAN TRUST (AN ASSET)AND WHOM WE CANNOT TRUST (A LIABILITY AND POSSIBLE BREACH, OF INTEL. WE ARE VERY NAIVE TO THINK OTHER WISE , OR TO BELIVE THAT WE (THE US GOVERMENT DOES NOT HAVE ANY OPERATIVES IN MEXICO AND HAVE HAD THEM THERE FOR OVER A DECADE AS A TRAINING FIELD AND AS AN FIRST STRIKE FORCE IN CASE MEXICO IS INVADED BY OTHER UNFRIENDLY GOVERMENTS OR THREATS!?THINK ABOUT IT AND FOLLOW (THE YELLOW BRICK ROAD)SURELY YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS ? IT IS A CODE WORD ? ALL SPECIAL FORCES TEAM MEMBERS KNOW! FORCE RECON,SEALS, DELTA,FORWARD OBSEVERS,PATH FINDERS,LONG RANGE RECON PATROLS,AND THE INFAMOUS DEADLIEST OF ALL (S.S.D.) BUT GENUINE C.O.B.R.A. UNITS OF VIET NAM JUNGLES AND DESERT LIZARDS THEY ARE THE ONES THAT EVERYONE FEARS WITH FATAL CONSEQUENCES BECAUSE OF THE SILENCE WHEN THEY ARE LET LOOSE BY THE GOVERMENT BELIVE ME BLACK WATER AND ALL THESE MERCs. INTERNATIONAL AND DOMESTICS WANT TO BE CAN NOT MATCH THESE PEOPLE THEY ARE THE BEST (THE REPUBLIC OF VIET NAMs PRODUCT) EVER PRODUCED and walk this earth today in SILENCE!! THIS GOVERMENT CAN GUARANTEE IT AGAINST ANY DEADLY FORCE CONVENTIONAL OR NOT!THE ARCHIVES AND A SELECT FEW INCLUDING SENATOR MC CAIN CAN CONFIRM THIS! HIS LIBERATION WAS BROUGHT ABOUT BY THIS FORCE AND NOT ANY ONE ELSE BUT THE CREDIT WENT TO DIPLOMATIC PROCESS VENUE IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THE OBSCURITY AND SILENCE OF THIS FORCE THE NVA KNEW THEY HAD NO OTHER CHOICE WHEN THEY LEARNED ABOUT WHAT WAS TO BE TURN LOOSE ON THEM ! SENATOR JOHN TOWER,PRES.NIXON,KENNEDYs,JOHNSON AND UNCLE GEORGE BUSH SENIOR THE DIRECTOR OF THE CIA THEN.ASK HIM?
Posted by:LUIS QUERINOMarch 21, 2008 3:52:17 PMRespond ^
Prince wants to portray himself as the all American patriot, hero and protector. As a former US military service member I find his behavior a disgrace on his prior service in the “real” US military. A real solder fights to defend his country, not to make a profit for himself or others. Now he is nothing more than a war profiteer and mercenary bagman in an over priced suit, paid for through the suffering and blood of others. Prince is the ultimate poster child for the Neo-Cons. Mercenary organizations and activities should be outlawed world wide.
Re: Jim Guinnessey’s comment. Jim please take your own advice. Try reading some books about logical thought and critical thinking. Your logic would have us living in a brutal and lawless world. Can you imagine someone using your caveman logic to defend a murder?
Posted by:ButchMarch 21, 2008 4:25:34 PMRespond ^
Will we eventually see a book burning, broken store fronts some minority group as the target to initiate a new super race?
Some controls must be put in place to prevent a reoccurance of a former police state that was separate from the regular army.
Soon we won't have the repubs (hopefully) to blame, so it is imperative that lobbying and all that goes with lobbying be carefully and fully controlled.
Posted by:free2beMarch 21, 2008 7:14:07 PMRespond ^
We should ask ourselves this question: What happens when Blackwater, etc, leave Iraq? They're not going away. They lobby and employ thousands of fighters.

I'd imagine we'll likely see them on the streets of NY, Boston, and LA within a few years, particularly if our more militaristic political leaders prevail in November.
Posted by:Garret WhitneyMarch 21, 2008 7:16:29 PMRespond ^
Good news for military types: Lots of lucrative and exciting employment! And for tax paying Americans too: Couldn't Blackwater and other private security folks "maintain the peace" in Iraq and Afghanistan, collect the bill for their operations from the locals rather than from us tax payers and bring our troops on home? Hmmmm, possible, no? Couldn't oil companies pay them to do..... whatever.... to get the oil we are addicted to, rather than continue to have to lie about why we risk our soldiers lives, not in the defense of our country, but in the defense of a desired commodity? I say long live Blackwater--- but----should I ever see a Blackwater employee brandishing a weapon here in America to enforce the will of their employer-be it the government or a private individual or coorperation- on a fellow American citizen- I will open fire, period.
Posted by:BrianMarch 22, 2008 10:25:07 AMRespond ^
I never seen such a crew of "WHINERS" in my life. I am willing to bet:

1. 95% never served and when the stuff hits the fan loose their garbage mouths to praise of the troops that do.

2. Of that 95% I am willing to bet there are those who claim to be more than they ever could be... wannabe's.

3. Our nation was structured on "private" enterprise, a right all have to create a business, no matter what type for themselfs.

Why don't you whiners get off welfare? And you wannabe's join one of the services.

Mouth without experience is mouth without substance.

Get a life .. Blackwater Lives....

http://www.soft-vision.com/warriors
http://www.soft-vision.com/why

Posted by:Eagle IIMarch 22, 2008 4:47:49 PMRespond ^
Brian, you might be right about 95% being "Whinners", as you called them. But, I think I have a right as a WW2 vet to expose and voice an opinion on any possibility of a threat to our freedoms!!
You are obviously a neocon with a desire to stiffle any voice that doesn't agree with yours. You might try a sniff of gas to know what its like, only you can turn it off. Or you might try going without food and water for long periods of time. Or you might watch your daughter or wife torn from you and know they will be raped and killed. Of course you won't experience any of that stuff, because there are people like the 95% and the 5% that care.
Posted by:free2beMarch 22, 2008 7:47:36 PMRespond ^
Sir, you sure do not write like a senior AMerican warrior.
BTW: you answered to Brian. It was EAGLE TWO Who said that and I totally agree with him.

You are a whinner! Not a Patriot !

SEALTWO
Posted by:sealtwoMarch 22, 2008 11:06:43 PMRespond ^
in this world of violence, people do what comes in naturaly, they either deffend themselves or hire someone who will if they got the money.
at the end we all shall see...
who can press further.
Posted by:Dr.QMarch 23, 2008 12:45:57 AMRespond ^
Dr.Q

Most might... but we have reared a generation of sissy's spawned by the flower children of the 60's.

They'd rather praise allah than fight for freedom.

The "NEOCON" tag they use is just another one of their "sensitivity" labels.. and a cop out - don't look at me - look at him.

SEAL TWO who posted above you was SEAL TEAM II in Vietnam he is also a Korean War Combat Vet and like he said - and I will restate, most sound like 2 things who have posted here:

1. Whiners ( who call mommy when they stub their toe )

2. Wannabe more than they will ever be.

I wonder if their mothers had any kids that lived?

and thats a fact jack.

"Blackwater Lives" - get over it.

http://www.soft-vision.com/warriors
http://www.soft-vision.com/why

Eagles Up!
http://www.eaglesup.us
Posted by:Eagle IIMarch 23, 2008 1:10:00 AMRespond ^
Why do firms like BW, GW, TC, et al. exist? Because there is a demand. A demand, in large part, by the US gvt. Why? Because it's cheaper and easier than having soldiers filling these positions. Don't vilify a company in a capitalist nation, nor the men volunteering to work for it, when the blame, should be placed a few tiers upwards. Be appreciative that there are Ugandans working for $20 a day to man a guard post, while your fat sons sit, unworried, playing 'first person' shooter games and eating cheetos, all but unaffected by our gvt's folly.

I agree with Brian. There is a use for the companies that employ us 'Mercs." With the Katrina scene merely an amuse-bouche, I'll be as scared and drawn to action as the rest when we inevitably start seeing them truly 'regulate' on American soil.













Posted by:Former Action GuyMarch 24, 2008 6:51:30 AMRespond ^
The fact that Scahill’s book was mentioned in the very first comment here is extremely important. I watched him on the Daily Show as Jon Stewart spouted that familiar line, ‘mercenaries aren’t a new thing...’ Stewart closed by ‘accidentally’ throwing Scahill’s book to the floor where it couldn’t receive the all-too-important plug via camera close-up. Of course mercenaries aren’t a new thing, that’s how we know to describe Blackwater as such. Their employment is simply a weathervane for the state of Empire and how close it may be to decline. The outsourcing of military for the purpose of expansion has always proven disastrous in the long term. There are many points of reference in the rise and decline of Empire, but as you can imagine monstrous private armies never usher in any golden era. That they’ve been used before is just a poor rebuttal to the question of why we need mercenary armies to protect our freedom.
Posted by:Nearly ZeroMarch 24, 2008 10:36:01 AMRespond ^
"SEALS" WHY THEY WERE MERELY (UDTs)until HOLLYWOOD DECIDED TO GLORIFY THEM AND AFTER VIET NAM WE ARE SEALS NOW YOU SHOULD TREMBLE WHEN WE PASS ON BY POLITELY PUT! WHAT ABOUT THE 3rd FORCE RECON 3rd MARINES IstPLATOON ALPHA CO. AND CHARLIE CO. THRID PLATOON AND MIKE CO 1ST PLATOON UP IN I CORP INSIDE NORTH VIET NAM DO YOU KNOW WHAT A C.O.B.R.A. UNIT IS ?OF COURSE YOU DON'T YOU (SILLY RABBIT)TELL US WHAT THE PASSWORD WAS FOR ALL GRUNTS UP THERE JUST BEFORE THE 1STMARINE DIV, TOOK OVER FROM THE 3RD AND WHY DEEP WATER PIER WAS NAME AFTER? AND WHAT WAS CHINA BEACH BEFORE IT WAS CONVERTED TO AN R/R IN COUNTRY REC. IF YOU CAN ANSWER THAT THEN YOU ARE A GENUINE (UDT)AND I CAN RESPECT FOUL MOUTH (SWABBIES) FOR A JAR HEAD IS ALWAYS A JAR HEAD AND HE IS THE MOST DEADIEST WEAPON THE US HAS AND IF YOU COMBINE THAT WITH THE TRAINING OF A C.O.B.R.A. UNIT? WELL SORRY FOR ALL YOU LOSERS!!!!!!!! YOUR THOUGHTS ARE BUT WANNABE's' AND THE RUE TO YOU ALL!! you can not confirm your words because only the best of the best knew these answers!! so sorry for the unpoliteness but hard facts you see only some very few ELITE came to know (ADMIRAL ZUMWALT,AND ALEXANDER HAIG, PERSONALLY !AND WWERE ASSIGNED DUTIES AS PERSONAL COOKS,LAISONS,PROTOCOLS AND BODY GUARDS AFTER OUR R.T.D.s FROM UNCLE HOs back yard and WONDER WORLD UP AND DOWN HIS URINALS WITH SEWER RATS AND THE TUNNEL RODENTS THE CRYSTAL JARS CAME TO LIFE BY UNCLE HAIG AND MR.ZUMWALT BORN OUT OF NEED TO PENETRATE DEEP INTO UNCHARTERD TERRITORY AND EXECUTE PRECISE LONG RANGE EXTREME PREJUDICE CALCULATIONS THE BIRTH AND FORMATION OF ONE SILENT KILLER WAS AS THE C.O.B.R.A. UNITS!TO BE SECRET AND IN DORMANT STAGES AFTERWARDS FOR EVER MORE UNTIL REAWAKEN ! BE AWARE AND BE SCARED BE VERY SCARED THE SERPENT LIVES IN SILENCE AMONG US!!! WANNABEs SPEAK AND TALK YOUR TALK AND WALK YOUR FALSE WALK LEAN IF YOU WISH IN PRISON YOUR JUST OTHER FISH I'LL LISTEN TO YOUR SONG OF WANTING TO BE UNDER THE SEA IN AN OCTOPUS GARDEN IN THE SHADE? SO MEET ME IN THE BOTTOM AND BRING MY RUNNING SHOES FOR I DO NOT WALK YOUR WALK NOR TALK YOUR FALSE TALK AND I LEAN ONLY TO WHISPER MY NAME OBVIOUSLY YOU NEVER HEARD OF THE CHOLO CHAMPS NOR ANY RED NECK TRAMPS EVEN BLACK MAMBA KINGS YELL OUT WE ARE PRISONERS OF OWN DELIGHT SO WHY DO SAY YOU ARE WHOM,YOU WERE THERE?IF NO ONE KNOWS WHY WHOM WAS AND NOT EVERY WHERE YOU SEE MY FELLOW SCARE THERE, WE ALL JUST FOLLOW THE YELLOW BRICK ROAD TO NO WHERE?
Posted by:CHATO2124March 24, 2008 4:07:10 PMRespond ^
You libs are still stuck on Blackwater? pathetic...

http://thegreatamericablog.blogspot.com/
Posted by:The Great AmericanMarch 25, 2008 2:03:04 AMRespond ^
did you realize your acronym is F.A.G.?
Posted by:just a guyMarch 30, 2008 11:02:10 AMRespond ^
We are sending people from South
America that were trained at the
School of the Americas over to Iraq.
Posted by:ThomasMarch 30, 2008 11:22:37 AMRespond ^
The video's soundtrack is not drum-and-bass.
Posted by:DRUM_AND_BASSMarch 31, 2008 3:47:52 PMRespond ^
tao magh tao! dinky dao! number ten thou!(no man can ever see that which he never experienced nor can he hold his head up high and speak fact if his was never there no where to be? losers always pretend to be under the sea in an octo[deleted] garden in the shade and like to glorify there lies but still they have not found what they are looking for so they fantasize minute men or militia wannabes a (for real) soldier in some idiots mine of being a cop or a savior? lololololol!!!!!!!
Posted by:chato2124March 31, 2008 5:34:38 PMRespond ^
Like all "private" enterprises, that lagally shouldn't be privatized, ate nothing less than a futher excuse for our terrorist government to deny accountability for their actions. When the seventeen Iraqi civilians were slaughtered, our government's excuse was that they had no criminal jurisdiction over these people: nor did the Iraqi "puppet" government by an agreement forced by the United Sates government. Who issues a license to purchase (illegal) automatic weapons and military equipment to private comapanies, a business license to use them; indirectly pays their salary to slaughter innocent people and then claims no responsibility or jurisdiction. Only the United States and Britain commits such terrorist atrocities. When I called my S senatorial offices asking them why private companies were allowed to purchase and use illegal automatic weapons and military equipment, they had no answer. I volunteered to sign criminal charges, but they claimed they didn't know where to send me. It's time to remove and replace ALL those in government by any means necessary when they are obviously the criminals.
Posted by:MaseratiApril 1, 2008 7:49:58 AMRespond ^
Lots of tough guys here. Stick to your guns and save true patriots like myself your jumbled english. Blackwater in the US = the Gestapo. Wake up people.
Posted by:unidioticApril 16, 2008 11:36:42 AMRespond ^
Tough guys... BIG MOUTHS and obviously the minority.

Been there, done that.

I'll fight for my liberties HERE.

Bring home our soldiers...we are being pillaged and raped by our own government.
Posted by:serveddesertApril 16, 2008 1:16:14 PMRespond ^
poetically put i say unto you i know why whom was never there and we all followed the yellow brick road home? ask to see the spider upon a deaf ear,as whom listens his mute with hand sign whom speaks to the blind man? there is you answers my crystal jar from the udt of 39 offten deep waters i did pier? i wonder how many young wannabes militia,minute men ,and border watchers can answer the poem of then soothsayers on wonder of viet nam? lolololololol!!!!!!!
Posted by:platoon2124April 23, 2008 8:10:13 PMRespond ^
Eagle2 (lol) and Seal2 (lol) two sad ass dudes (maybe, its the internet) who refuse to watch anything other than Stallone, Schwartzenegger, or Chuck Norris films... LOL .. Any 'real' american/True Grit patriot wouldn't be reading 'Mother Jones' articles.... Sad really... I mean can i say 'I'm ex-spec ops' here in this little comment box... Would you believe me too.. get a life ..
oh P.S. John Wayne was gay...
Posted by:ScotMay 5, 2008 7:01:48 PMRespond ^
well as we all can tell that to be or not to be ? that is the question ? for the code of the word until i corps of north viet nam ashua land of the jar and the valley of the dead we very few and i mean a very elite few can honestly say the poems of the spirit whom were there and if you can not say them than you were not present so do not even try all you waanabe soldiers of fortune and militias and border watchers you need to bleed first among us jars before you aim and point a weapon at me you idiots and foolish scum bags! feel free to join the marine corps and join a platoon in a fire fight first ? then tell me how you feel taking another human life regardless of race? it is not the same as a rabbit or a deer you idiots put yourself in anyones shoes and point a gun at your own child or point it at yourself( make sure it is not loaded first ) dum ass ! then think if that same person was to declare war on your country and comes upon you! with the same hate and the same rage you seem to have towards other people? think you damm idiot?
Posted by:1st mardivJuly 11, 2008 3:00:43 PMRespond ^

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